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- This person's ancestry is one of my biggest stumpers. I have no idea who this man’s father is.
This is a long note that talks about a lot of Mannen families in Bracken & Mason counties, to sort out their ancestries. If you’re interested, keep scrolling down . . .
He is on the Kentucky Mysteries page. There are a number of Mannens in Mason and Bracken counties, but I can't identify them as family.
I think that I do, however, have an answer to his mother's identity. Please see under her page for my logic.
Overall, here's what I (think I) know about him and possible relations. I list all that I can discover about Mannens in Kentucky from the eighteenth century on to sort these families out.
His name is "Mannon" in Kendall (246). Mannan, Manning and other variants exist. I would request a death record, but death records from Bracken Co. for 1879 don't exist: see http://www.kdla.ky.gov/research.htm.
[While Manning is a possible variant of my Mannen family's name, note that there is a different John Manning family in Kentucky that can be identified as different in part because they are Catholic. They were from St. Mary's County in Maryland, beginning with a Cornelius Manning. John Manning was b. abt. 1745 in St. Mary's Co. and left there in the early 1790s for Kentucky, where he lived in Washington Co. (later Marion Co.). His son Joseph married there in 1792, and his son Mark bought land there in 1801. Susan Manning, one of Joseph's daughters, was born there in 1794, and in 1812, in St. Genevieve, Missouri, married Thomas "Seemes," a descendant of the (Catholic) Semmes family from southern Maryland, whose descent is described by Newman. John and his family moved to Perry Co., Missouri in about 1803 (it was part of France at that time), and John died there in 1813.]
A John Mannon or Mannan, born in King George Co., Virginia on 15 Oct. 1752, served in the Revolution; see pension claim # 9538, placed on the pension roll in 1833. He is listed as a taxpayer the same county in the 1780s. He was buried in Harrison Co., Indiana. He had 9 children, including a son named John born in 1791. This John is of an age to be this John's father, but there doesn't seem to be connection. And according to the genealogical abstract of his pension file, his family moved from Virginia to Indiana in about 1816.
A John Mannen was an early settler at Fort Boonesborough/Boone's Station in 1775.
A John Mannen was married to a Mary Moore on January 1, 1795, in Berks Co., Pennsylvania, by Matthias Kaler.
On the 1800 census for Mason County "John Mannon" appears as a taxpayer .
A typescript entitled "The John Mannen Genealogy" by Mabel Irene Huggins describes the family of a John Mannen Sr. m. to Elizabeth Cooley who lived in what is now Ontario, CA; his dates are not known, but their oldest child was born 1806. I seriously doubt that this is my family.
The first time John Mannen, or any Mannen/Mannon etc., appears in the Mason Co. Wills and Estate index is in Oct. 1804, when John Mannen, Samuel Frazee, and Benjamin Hiatt are named in an estate inventory for John Scott (dated 27 Aug. 1804, recorded Oct. 1804).
On 6 Apr. 1809 a "John Mannon" married Sarah Washburn in Adams Co., Ohio (the reference is vague for this).
The 1810 census in Kentucky lists a John Mannen in Mason Co.
On 22 Sept. 1812, John Mannon and Thomas T[ollley] Worthington served as witnesses for the will of John Watson. Note that a Thomas Mannen married Thomas Tolley's daughter Rachel; she was born in 1800. I've seen his birthdate listed, unsourced, as 1798. Note also that a Thomas Mannen exists, aged 51, married to a Susan, aged 42, in the 1850 census for Mason Co. The fact that Mannon and Worthington appear together here suggests a family relation, though I don't know how they might be related to this John Mannen.
In the War of 1812 a sergeant "John Mannan" served in Capt. Dowden's company of Pogue's Kentucky Volunteers in the War of 1812; he enlisted Aug. 27, 1812 to Sept. 26, 1812. Another "John Mannan" served as a private in Robert Crutchfield's detachment of the Virginia Militia (a pretty big coincidence with the marriage of 1814). A Thomas H. Mannen also served in 1812, in the 40th Kentucky regiment, as a Major.
In 1814 a John Mannen married Charity Critchfield (Crihfield) in Mason Co. (see below; this is likely to be a son of the John Mannen who m. Elizabeth Hughes).
In 1819, a John Mannen is listed as leaving an estate in Mason Co., and as having left a will. Query: Who is this?
The 1820 Census from Mason Co, Kentucky seems to be key here, though without further help it's just a list of names. There are several groups living near each other: Jas Pollock, Jos Pollock; and then several lines later, all as heads of household: Jno Mannon, Sra Perkins, Jas Mannon, Jno Mannon Jr. What might help, if it is possible, is to look at deeds for land. I don't know how to do this.
A John Mannen Sr. died in in 1822. This would most logically be the man on the 1820 census, with his sons after him. His will lists the following as his family, including John Sr. and eight children; no wife is named (presumably she pre-deceased him):
John Mannen, d. Summer 1822, Mason Co., Kentucky. The will is in Will Book E, on pages 296-97:
| James Mannen, b. before 1801
| John Mannen, b. before 1801
| Elizabeth Mannen, b. before 1801 (m. William Thomas on 26 Feb. 1816 in Mason Co., KY)
| Catherine Mannen, b. before 1801 (m. William Neale on 23 Nov. 1815, in Mason Co., KY)
| Thomas Mannen, b. before 1801
| Patty Mannen, b. after 1801
| Sidney Mannen, b. after 1801
| Nancy Mannen, b. after 1801
The names "Neale" and "Thomas" are recorded in the will.
The birth dates I give here assume that the age of majority is 21, which would make abt. 1801 here. I assume this because in the will he says (for instance, in one clause), that "my son Sidney Mannen shal have five hundred dollards of my estate when he arrives at the age of 21 years," and later in another clause that "then all of the balance of my estate shall remain in the lands of my sons John and Thomas Mannen until my daughter Nancy Mannen should get married or arrive to the age of twenty one years." John and Thomas are definitely 21; Patty's age is not mentioned, but he requested that "my daughter Patty, my son Sidney, and Nancy is to be reasonably educated, clothed, and supported out of my estate by my executors." The exectors are John Mannen and Thomas Mannen, presumably the two children here.
It is logical that this John Mannen d. 1822 is the John Mannen who is the HOH on the 1820 census for Mason Co., living on the other side of Sara Perkins from his sons James and John Jr. It also makes sense that the John Mannen on the 1810 census is also John Mannen Sr. d. 1822. James and John Jr. did not have their own households by then.
But: the problem of fitting my John as the son of John d. 1822 is that the dates don't jibe. My John was born in 1814 according to his gravestone and every census after 1850. Therefore, he would only be about 8 at the time of this will, not 21 or of an age to be an executor. Maybe, then, my John is a son of James or John sons of John?
Query: Is Thomas son of John Sr. d. 1822 the one who married Rachel Worthington?
Query: Could my John Mannen b. 1814 be a *son* of James or John Jr. or even Thomas?
Maybe, but their father John was married to Elizabeth Hughes. A Sidney S. Mannen was married (by the Rev. James Savage) to Eliza Walton on 10 Aug. 1837 in Bracken Co. He is more than likely the son of John Mannen Sr. d. 1822 named Sidney. This Sidney is named as the son of John "Manning" and Elizabeth Hughes, a couple who were married in Pennsylvania and then traveled to Ohio. Sidney later (1844) moved to Jefferson Co., Illinois, where he died in 1872, and his 10 children had families. If this can be verified as the same Sidney, this gives much more information about the family of John Mannen d. 1822. But it also means that Sidney's mother was named Elizabeth, not Mary who died in 1870. Since Mary Cushman died in 1870, she long outlived her husband. The only way this would work is if John Mannen d. 1822 married again after the birth of Sidney, who seems to have been one of his youngest children. This is not a likely option.
A Boaz Mannen, who had a son named John, wrote his will in Oct. 1822. This family was in Floyd Co., Kentucky by 1810, and in Ohio by 1817.
There was a John Mannen (1785-1835) who m. 27 Feb. 1830 to Sally Tarrant (1811-1836). Query: Is this John Jr., son of John d. 1822?
The 1830 census in Kentucky lists a John Mannen and a James Mannen. I assume that these are the same two as in the 1820 census, sons of John Sr. d. 1822. A guess is that my John is a son of one of these. Both of these die soon after.
In 1832, a John Mannen is listed as having left an estate, with no will, in Mason Co. In 1834, a James Mannen is listed as having left an estate, with no will, in Mason Co.
Query: If these two are the sons of John d. 1822, who are the James and John on the 1840 census, below? There are clearly two different James Mannens here, and at least three different John Mannens (John Sr., John who d. 1832, and John on the 1840 census, who is presumable John Jr., and mine).
On 27 Jan. 1834, Richard Kirk married Mary (Cushman) Mannen in Mason Co. Her name, as Mary Kirk, is on my John Mannen's gravestone because her first husband was named Mannen. Richard Kirk was her second husband; unfortunately, her first husband's first name is not given. But the John Mannen d. 1832 is a possibility. Mary was born in 1794, making her 40 when she married Richard as his second wife, and died in 1870. Note that John Mannen d. 1822 has no daughter named Mary.
On 15 Sept. 1838 Nancy Mannen married Benjamin F. Driskell in Mason Co.
In 1839, a Susan Mannen is listed as having left an estate in Mason Co., with no will.
The 1840 census lists again the man whom I assume is John Mannen Jr. (Northern Div., Mason Co, Kentucky, page 37); this is because a James Mannen (first name partly obscured, but it must be him) is again nearby, on page 39 (which is actually the next page on that 2-page census).
There is a John Mannen in Bracken County in the 1840 census.
In 1840, several Mannens—"Colonel Thomas Mannen," "Capt. T. Mannen," and "Gen. John Mannen" served as Electors for the Democratic party in that year's presidential campaign. No doubt one of the "T" Mannens is the one who served in the war of 1812 as a major. I've seen unsourced reference to the fact this "Gen" John Mannen is the one who married Charity Critchfield in 1814, but I have nothing further here.
On 27 Feb. 1840 Elizabeth Mannen married William Soward in Mason Co.
On 27 Feb. 1840 Thomas Mannen m. Susan Anderson in Mason Co.
On 27 Apr. 1844, an Andrew I. Mannen married Sarah Shotwell in Bracken Co., married by Thos. Grange.
On 21 Oct. 1847 Martha Mannen m. Edward Robertson in Mason Co.
On 5 Apr. 1848 David Mannen m. Comfort Ann Peppers in Mason Co.
Possible conclusion: It seems like what's going on here is that these are granchildren of John d. 1822, whose names exist in no other source before 1850 (that I know of) except these marriage records. It's likely that my John and Mary are among these grandchildren.
On the 1850 census my John Mannen b. 1814 m. Minerva Hamilton lists his birthplace, and the rest of his family's, as Kentucky. He is in district 3. (The 1860 census lists his and his whole family as being born in Virginia, but this is a mistake, a ditto mark carried on down the column from a family above.)
The 1850 census also records a David Mannen (aged 36), wife Ann (aged 23) and child Mary L (aged 1), all born in Kentucky. This would probably be David and Ann (Peppers). Mary L. Mannen, b. 1850, married Alexander R. Victor from Harrison Co., Ky, born 1845, on 30 May 1871 in Mason Co.
The 1850 census records a Thomas Mannen (aged 51), wife Susan (aged 42), with four children from ages 9 to 2. This is Thomas m. Susan Anderson in 1840. He would be the correct age to be the son of John Sr. d. 1822.
The 1850 census for Mason Co. records a Martin M. Mannen, aged 26, married to Susan, aged 23, with children Mary E. (aged 2) and David A. (aged 1/12). Note that John and Minerva's daughter is also named Mary Elizabeth, born the same year.
In this census, John Mannen and Minerva Hamilton live 2 houses away form Joseph Frazee and Ann Cushman.
On 15 Oct. 1850 Francis Mannen m. Ann Fernoughly in Mason Co.
Several Mannens (Thomas H., John, and Enoch) served with the 40th Regiment of the Kentucky Volunteer Mounted Infantry in the US Army during the Civil War. Thomas H. Mannen is mentioned in War Reports (War of the Rebellion I.XX Part I: Reports, page 147; this is a report on Morgan's Raid).
A "John E. Mannen" was born in Cleveland, OH on 7 June 1862; he later managed the Mannen & Esterly Co.
In 1865, John Mannen appears on the tax lists for Mason Co.; income was $309. No other Mannens appear on the list.
In 1871, David Mannen served as a bondsman for Elizabeth B. Mannen, aged 19 from Mason Co., to be married to William H. Wilson from Lewis Co. They were married in Minerva, Mason Co. on 30 May 1871; he also served as a bondsman for Mary L. Mannen a day earlier, to be married in Minerva to Alexander Victor on the same day.
In 1875 William Mannen, aged 64, appears in the census for the Kansas territory (Stanton Twp., Miami Co.), aged 69 (born in abt. 1811). He is also the assessor of the census. He is married to Maria M. Mannen, also born in Kentucky, aged 54.
The Germantown Business directory for 1876-77 lists "Mannen J & L.H.: Leaf tobacco." This is my John Mannen and his son Leslie H. Mannen. I assume this means that they were farmers (not store owners).
According to the census mortality schedules for 1880 for the Fern Leaf district of Mason Co., John Mannen aged 65, farmer, died in August of typhoid fever. The note is by Dr. C.S. Savage. This gives a birth date of abt. 1815—my John.
In 1880, a David Mannen is living in Minerva, Mason Co.
Obituary on 21 Aug. 1882 says that Major Thomas H. Mannen has died (Evening Bulletin in Maysville); he served in the Federal army during the war. He was born in Mason Co. [11, 12, 13]
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